Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu comp.os.ms-windows.misc:10087 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:12215Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!uunet!boulder!ucsu!rintintin.Colorado.EDU!hayesjFrom: hayesj@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (HAYES JAMES MICHAEL JR)Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.appsSubject: Re: Program Manager kills my Group files!Message-ID: <1993Apr29.212018.28923@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>Date: 29 Apr 93 21:20:18 GMTReferences: <1reiqj$qtr@access.digex.net>Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)Organization: University of Colorado, BoulderLines: 33Nntp-Posting-Host: rintintin.colorado.eduIn article <1reiqj$qtr@access.digex.net> bsmith@access.digex.com (Barry Smith) writes:>Any clue? Some times when I enter Win 3.1 ProgMan says that I need to rebuild>a group! It's quite annoying!>I've had the same problem with a Maxtor 7213A.  Turned offsmartdrive, 32 bit disk access, etc.  This same disk abortsNorton Speed Disk (NU 4.5), up to 8 times, requesting NDD to berun when attempting to defrag drive.  At Some peoples' suggestionI reformatted my drive and reloaded DOS 5.0, Win 3.1 fromscratch.  A few people found that installing 3.1 on top of 3.1beta on top of 3.0 caused a similar problem, So I tried thisdrastic solution.  When the problem reoccurred, I didn't have thebrains not to load 6.0 and dblespaced the drive.I get arround the annoyance by copying my *.grp files to *.gro.when I get the message, I run file manager and copy theoffeniding group files from *.gro ove rthe *.grp.  Then I quitand restart windows(If the group is an often used important one.)This really sucks.  But I'm pretty sure that the problem is thedrive (especially with the NSD problem).  I will be going without over 66% of my memory after finals for 2 to 4 weeks, whilethe guy I bought the disk and system from, goes over it andeither fixes it or replaces the drive.  I can't wait to have asystem that will run consistently with all hte goodies!--   Mike Hayes             |"Knowledge is good."  - Faber College Motto  WWW                    |"Knowledge and Thoroughness" -Rensselear Poly Motto  Unemployed Tech,       |"No, thank YOU!"  -Groucho Marx, 'A Day at the Races'  Driven to banging my head against engineering physics for 4 years.