Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!rutgers!igor.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christianFrom: Bjorn.B.Larsen@delab.sintef.no (Bjorn B. Larsen)Newsgroups: soc.religion.christianSubject: Re: SATANIC TOUNGESMessage-ID: <May.10.05.08.50.1993.3730@athos.rutgers.edu>Date: 10 May 93 09:08:51 GMTSender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.eduReply-To: bjorn.b.larsen@delab.sintef.noOrganization: delabLines: 63Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.eduIn article <May.6.00.34.49.1993.15418@geneva.rutgers.edu>marka@hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Mark Ashley) writes:> [ citing article <May.2.09.50.21.1993.11782@geneva.rutgers.edu>> mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) }> I have a simple test. I take several people who can speak> only one language (e.g. chinese, russian, german, english).> Then I let the "gifted one" start "speaking in toungues".> The audience should understand the "gifted one" clearly> in their native language. However, the "gifted one" can> only hear himself speaking in his own language.> Works everytime. 8-)This thread si starting to get really silly. Such nonsense do notbelong in s.r.c and it really hurts me to read some of the posts onthis issue.We chose to believe whetever we want, but we are not allowed to defineour own Christianity. we see in parts. If you see something that I donot see, or vice versa, it does not give me the right to play jokes onyour belief!There is no wonder that your "miracle" does not work. You designet ityourself, and even if you were able to collect a group of people likethe one you describe, I see no reason why your "miracle" should reallyhappen. God is the one who does miracles, not humans!After all we are all on the same way, or at least, we are all headedfor the same goal, following different paths. Remember that we aregoing to spend eternity together. If I can not stand your view here onearth, how can I possibly stand spending eternity together with you?Tongues is a question of belief. Not wether you believe in Jesus, butif you believe that He is able to give you this gift. Just as anyother of the gifts mentioned in the Bible. But there is no evidence inthe Bible that people who do not accept these gifts are in any waybetter than others.> Perhaps I would believe the "gifted ones" more if they were> glorifying God rather than themselves. Then perhaps we'd> witness a real miracle.Maybe some of the people who have received spiritual gifts are moreinterested in glorifying themselves than glorifying God, I don't know.But if this is the case, it still does not suggest that the gifts arefaked.In the Bible you will find that Jesus did not always do miracles. Hesaid that "I do nothing, except what my father tells me." Perhaps itwoulkd be for the best of all if we where all able to live by thatexample!In Him,Bjorn--______________________________________________________________________               s-mail:                 e-mail:|   |   |      Bjorn B. Larsen         bjorn.b.larsen@delab.sintef.no|__ |__ |      SINTEF DELAB|  \|  \|      N-7034 TRONDHEIM        tel: +47-7-592682 / 592600|__/|__/|_     NORWAY                  fax: +47-7-591039 / 594302______________________________________________________________________