Subject: " rain " = " fall " + " water " ?i be try to collect typological evidence to support etymology for turkic jagmur " rain " analyse it as jag - " to fall " + * - mur " water " , the second element be attest in manchu - tungus , korean , japanese , and possibly in mongolic . doe anyone know similar example outside of altaic ? sasha vovin avvovin @ miamiu . ac . muohio . edu