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<br>&lt;miteymous>	so at this point you are connected and have internet access?
<br>&lt;Strider>	huh? is this thing still going??
<br>&lt;miteymous>	and access to their network?
<br>&lt;Strider>	j/k
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Hehe
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	what Strider are you bored</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	whoah
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Are there many networks that are unsecured?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	lots</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Groovy
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	the city hall in my town is not using wep</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	Strider: what can we do to keep you interested</b>
<br>&lt;Strider>	me?
<br>&lt;Strider>	ermm
<br>&lt;Strider>	danece?
<br>&lt;Strider>	dance*
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	How can you secure yourself from being detected/accessed?
<br>&lt;miteymous>	ok so lets say you are connected now
<br>&lt;miteymous>	would you be able to see all the computers that are shared on the network?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	network neighborhood type thing?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	if you use samba</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	sorry Strider</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	Paranoiac: i will get to securing them later</b>
<br><font color="red">*	miteymous does the chicken dance for Strider</font>
<br>&lt;Strider>	lmao
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Ahh, ok...thanks
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Bah....that's nothing
<br>&lt;miteymous>	wait i thought samba was used to show graphics
<br><font color="red">*	Paranoiac does the Funky Monkey</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	when compiling programs etc
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	nope</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	what Strider</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	ahhsoo o_O
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok everyone ready</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	to talk about wep</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	yup
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Aye, cap'n
<br>&lt;Strider>	go on then
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	well out in california two kids figured out how to break wep</b>
<br>&lt;Strider>	hold on, whats wep?? is that still the wireless thingy?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes</b>
<br>&lt;Strider>	ah ok
<br>&lt;Strider>	carry on
<br>&lt;miteymous>	wireless encryption protocol :x
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	it is wireless encryption protocal</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok when you find a wireless network you need to use airsnort</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	with your card still in promiscuos mode you need to start airsnort and just start to gather packets </b>
<br><font color="red">-->	GOD (que_import@226C75B7.CF2E741F.41F302F6.IP) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	usually with a 128 bit wep key you should gather 1 gig of traffic</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	then it will list the wep key </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	everyone with me so far</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	So it grabs the key from the other user's packets?
<br>&lt;miteymous>	airsnort figures out the key for you?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes and beacon frames</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes miteymous</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	That's useful
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok so once you have the wep key</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Is the WEP verification a constant activity then? As opposed to using it once, like a password....
<br><font color="red">-->	nosolution (NS@p19-tnt1.ham.ihug.co.nz) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	you will load up wlanfe and put the ssid you have and click on the wep key tab and type the key</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yes it is constant Paranoiac</b>
<br><font color="red">-->	Jackel88 (new-web@166.90.65.247) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok so once you attach to the network you need to get your ip the same way you did before </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	without wep</b>
<br><font color="red">--	Jackel88 has quit (Quit: Leaving)</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok there are three ways to secure a wireless network besides wep</b>
<br><font color="red">---	GOD is now known as satan</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	kewl
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	cause wep sucks</b>
<br><font color="red">--	bluehaze[BED] has quit (Ping timeout)</font>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Hehe
<br>&lt;satan>	hey this is already registered
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok the three ways are a radius server, a kerbores server, ipsec</b>
<br><font color="red">---	satan is now known as compaq</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	if you need to know about those ways read the rfc's cause i am not going to explain them this time maybe another lecture</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	suhweet
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok im done any questions </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	or opinions </b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	do you have to have a big antennae?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	no </b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	and how far away can you be
<br><font color="red">-->	Ravish (Ravish@210.214.102.213) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	500 feet is 2 megs a second </b>
<br><font color="red">*	Strider is away (finger lickin the chicken)</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	hmm
<br><font color="red">--	Forbze has quit (Quit: Vive La Revolution)</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	thats not that far
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	What kind of wireless is this?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	i would not go past 500 feet</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	its 802.11b</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Ahh good
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	At least I've heard of it
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	802.11a, 802.11g are supposed to be better</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	but you said earlier you could bridge it, so itd be possible to get within say 100 feet, bridge the connection to a landline that went back to your house?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yea you could do that </b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	to keep the speeds?
<br>&lt;Ravish>	hi
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	bridges go up to 2 miles </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	hey ravish </b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	oh wow
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	What is a bridge, exactly?
<br>&lt;miteymous>	can i build one using a coke can and a piece of twine? :p
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	not a bridge maybe a antenna</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Hehehe
<br>&lt;miteymous>	lol
<br>&lt;miteymous>	omgggggggg
<br>&lt;miteymous>	coke all over my pc
<br><font color="red">-->	criven (nobody@68.3.152.20) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	.....that's not goof
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	*good
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok everyone done</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Groovy
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	or more questions</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	By the way, where do you get your tools from?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	the internet</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	......thanks
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	freshmeat</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Thank you
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	so do you guys think i did a good job on my first lecture</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	yes :)
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Yep
<br><font color="red">---	compaq is now known as AOL</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	im gonna try it out next year, and maybe get free internet access :x
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	This is my first, and it was damned good
<br><font color="red">---	AOL is now known as GODFATHER</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok well if you suys have any questions you can email me at simprix@simprix.net</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	or simprix@projectnexus.org</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Here's a question: Is there any way to cloak your connection, so that they network can't see your pc?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	well you could drop ping packets and setup a firewall and close all ports </b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	but if your doing something on the network they will see you</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Ahh
<br><font color="red">--	misguidedpoet has quit (Quit: gonna have some fun with dreamweaver)</font>
<br><font color="red">-->	th0rn (Dude@172.164.43.240) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br><font color="red">-->	Sub-0 (LiquidKn0w@66.153.12.78) has joined #bsrf</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	oh
<br>&lt;miteymous>	so eventually they will find you
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Another stupid question: Which OS are you people running?
<br>&lt;GODFATHER>	win XP
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yea if you camp out their</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	:/
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	i run linux</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	i run winxp atm
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Which distro?
<br>&lt;GODFATHER>	i run mandrake also
<br><font color="red">*	Strider is back (finger lickin the chicken) - was away 11mins 38secs</font>
<br>&lt;BaGeL>	night guys
<br><font color="red">--	BaGeL has quit (Quit: )</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	crux </b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Ah
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Ty
<br>&lt;miteymous>	umm
<br>&lt;miteymous>	corporate pro
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Is there a lecture at this time every week?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	not that i know of</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	i think there should be :x
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	yea</b>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	How does one find out when there will be one?
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ask AZTEK</b>
<br><font color="red">---	Sub-0 is now known as Liquid-is-away</font>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	i think there hadn't been one in awhile</b>
<br>&lt;Strider>	anyone wanna do a lec on summin a bit more n00b orientated?
<br>&lt;miteymous>	yah, like spoofing your ip :x
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Wasn't this n00b orientated?
<br>&lt;Strider>	pfft
<br>&lt;Strider>	it is if u know about it
<br>&lt;miteymous>	i know about it now, so i would say it was :P
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	...crazy...I thought it was
<br>&lt;Strider>	well i dont know jack shit about linux so i didnt understand a bit of it
<br>&lt;miteymous>	you can do it on windows too though :/
<br>&lt;th0rn>	hey can someone please help me find a nice big FAQ on totalitarianism?
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	You don't use Linux?
<br>&lt;th0rn>	:-)
<br>&lt;th0rn>	lol
<br>&lt;th0rn>	damn research paper
<br>&lt;Strider>	nope
<br>&lt;th0rn>	i've been lookin all over
<br><b>&lt;simprix	hey guys im going to bed</b>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	thanx a lot simprix
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Thanks
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	no problem</b>
<br><font color="red">---	Strider is now known as The_Don</font>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	You've made a simple n00b very happy
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	ok</b>
<br><b>&lt;simprix>	see ya</b>
<br><font color="red">---	simprix is now known as simprix[away]</font>
<br>&lt;miteymous>	bye
<br><font color="red">---	The_Don is now known as Strider</font>
<br>&lt;Strider>	them logs should come in handy when i do get linux :)
<br><font color="red">--	AtnNn has quit (Quit: g2g)</font>
<br>&lt;Paranoiac>	Hehe...I would have got it a long time ago if it weren't for my crappy 56k
<br><font color="red">*	Paranoiac doesn't like 7-day downloads...</font>
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